How can we trust photos which have been captioned and published under the nazi regime? I would say that the onus of proof lies with the photos themselves. and most important.is that Admiral Lutjens orders and decisions were all logic and in line with them. as I only wanted to show the whole scenario and demonstate that it is supported/matches with all the available evidences.
are not so important for me on this moment. Now all the variables like weight (tons vs ton calculations), sea conditions, temperature, wind, engine overboosting, exact meters gained on PG. Only for this purpouse I have showed what she did versus Prinz Eugen within only 9 minutes and known Prinz Eugen speed at 27 knots. Well, the all discussion here now is about this impact on her speed possibilities at Denmark Strait, as her top speed on trials is now known. Now we are all reasonable guys here and we know that she was with a particular weigth conditions for the speed/mile trials and we know that at Denmark Strait she was probably heavier that on November 1940. The evidences I have produced demonstate she did more than one time on November 1940, during trials, with 30,2, than 30,5, than 30,8 and even 31 knots. In this case we were evaluating Bismarck speed, and there were statements about Bismarck speed performances not able to reach 30 knots. Than one apply the logic of the events, read all available reports, and puts all together. Nobody here pretends to reach a great precision with the distance evaluations from the photo, but even with naked eyes it is so evident one cannot avoid to realize the indisputable facts they show us. and differently try to use the photos as they are with your personal interpretations to support your points. You should avoid to mention this when is good for you to say so as you are cornered to the facts with photo evidences too.
If you want to try to disqualify them, find the original negatives and show us the modifications occurred. The Denmark Strait photos are all correct and historically represent our references. The only way a print can be used to assess distance between objects, or between objects and the camera, is by extraction of the exact position of the camera and it's distance from objects of known dimension in the foreground against known dimensions on the distant object.Īs far as I have been able to gauge, NH69722 is the only photo from the Denmark Strait which presents sufficient data for such an assessment and even here I have grave doubts about the authenticity of this photo. Those who attempt photogrammetry using focal length against film-margins have been so confident of what they are saying that they had me and possibly others convinced that the negatives had been used, but a recent post has indicated that this is clearly not the case. That may hide a very large crop, since it is almost impossible to get a distant object correctly centred by the use of the camera alone. We should also be very circumspect about prints where the major image (Bismarck) is correctly centred.
The simple use of an enlarger masks the edges of the negative to sharpen the presentation and depending on it's use the resulting print will be cropped. Distortions and errors can creep in from a number of sources.Īll photo "prints" have been cropped to some extent. I tried to make a case for that over on one of the photo interp threads on the IJN board and was shown just how flawed that can be (they were very nice about it). Taking distances from photos can be very misleading.
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